Humza Kazmi Michael Moscrip Evan Elkins Anthony Picaro
Humza Kazmi Michael Moscrip Evan Elkins Anthony Picaro
Humza and I had an interesting discussion this afternoon that I thought I'd share with the rest of the group.
1. The Master and the Old Smith are likely godlings at odds, with the Old Smith being an avatar / ray / emanation of the Sun Lord. They are fighting for control of the Slumbering Ursine Dunes, with The Master likely being the "bear" in question.
While I'd previously seen this as a Law / Chaos dynamic (or Core / Weird), further discussion raised an interesting question:
The Old Smith and the Eld are not in cahoots against The Master, but both are Lawful and clearly opposed to him. How can the Anti-Cantons and the Core be against each other when both are aligned with Law?
That's when I remembered the five-fold alignment setup of the Hill Cantons. While The Master is clearly Chaotic Good, the Old Smith is Lawful Good and the Eld are Lawful Evil.
This blew my mind. If true, the cosmological conflicts we're seeing may not be as simple as Core / Weird, but also good and evil. I now suspect that "evil" is measured by the Anti-Cantons, with the wild elves being the embodiment of CE and the Eld the embodiment of LE.
2. When discussing the fleshwarping god of the Latter Day Hyperboreans that we discovered in the Undercity, a few ideas were raised:
A. First, I'm pretty sure that Eld party we fought was searching for their go in the Undercity.
B. I think it is likely the Eld have found and freed said god, as the UnderBrothel seems to indicate that they have grown in power and are making a push in Kezmarok.
C. The corpse blob factory was likely a part of the fleshwarping heresy followed by the Latter Day Hyperboreans. This also means the bone staff is connected to this heresy.
The hidden powers of the bone staff may then be connected to:
i. The Eld, and possibly their Psychic Helmet, since the Bone Staff has some telepathic capability (ESP).
ii. The sealed jar/bottle/whatever that had a Formless Spawn in it; I suspect the bone staff is a control rod of some sort.
I propose we try these out in conjunction, see what we discover.
Humza and I had an interesting discussion this afternoon that I thought I'd share with the rest of the group.
1. The Master and the Old Smith are likely godlings at odds, with the Old Smith being an avatar / ray / emanation of the Sun Lord. They are fighting for control of the Slumbering Ursine Dunes, with The Master likely being the "bear" in question.
While I'd previously seen this as a Law / Chaos dynamic (or Core / Weird), further discussion raised an interesting question:
The Old Smith and the Eld are not in cahoots against The Master, but both are Lawful and clearly opposed to him. How can the Anti-Cantons and the Core be against each other when both are aligned with Law?
That's when I remembered the five-fold alignment setup of the Hill Cantons. While The Master is clearly Chaotic Good, the Old Smith is Lawful Good and the Eld are Lawful Evil.
This blew my mind. If true, the cosmological conflicts we're seeing may not be as simple as Core / Weird, but also good and evil. I now suspect that "evil" is measured by the Anti-Cantons, with the wild elves being the embodiment of CE and the Eld the embodiment of LE.
2. When discussing the fleshwarping god of the Latter Day Hyperboreans that we discovered in the Undercity, a few ideas were raised:
A. First, I'm pretty sure that Eld party we fought was searching for their go in the Undercity.
B. I think it is likely the Eld have found and freed said god, as the UnderBrothel seems to indicate that they have grown in power and are making a push in Kezmarok.
C. The corpse blob factory was likely a part of the fleshwarping heresy followed by the Latter Day Hyperboreans. This also means the bone staff is connected to this heresy.
The hidden powers of the bone staff may then be connected to:
i. The Eld, and possibly their Psychic Helmet, since the Bone Staff has some telepathic capability (ESP).
ii. The sealed jar/bottle/whatever that had a Formless Spawn in it; I suspect the bone staff is a control rod of some sort.
I propose we try these out in conjunction, see what we discover.
Humza Kazmi it might be confusing (and why alignment is only a vague guide to relative ethical behavior) but while it is true that all things that are inimical are of the Weird, not all things of the Weird are inimical (there being also being forces neutral/apathetic and even somewhat friendly to humanity).
ReplyDeleteAh, hence "Live Weird or Die" being a coherent statement! :)
ReplyDeleteA good example of the last would be the gods of humanity, the older the Weirder. Human religion has pulled increasingly away from the Weird and I would imagine that if you project the tendency into the future that a technological, coreland civilization where religion is the soul-searching abstraction it is say for us is more the normative.
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